Friday, October 7, 2022

London Life and the Westminster Comic Marts

by Nigel Brown

© GT-Man, from Wikipedia

[This time around SuperStuff co-editor Nigel Brown takes us back to the days of the late 70s with memories of those great Westminster Comic Marts past -- Baggsey (Ian)]

Portsmouth in the early 1970s was a great place to collect American comics (see the ongoing SuperStuff73 series on ‘Searching for comics in Portsmouth, 1970s style’), but as I wrote back in 1984, in SuperStuff #11, “Of the second-hand shops we haunted, on a recent trip I was only able to find two that possibly had some comics for sale”. Combined with the distribution problems that limited the availability of new comics off the newsstand, by the mid-1970s Portsmouth began to lose its lustre for the enthusiastic comic collector. 

We’d already begun to take the odd school half-term trip up to London to Dark They Were & Golden Eyed in Berwick Street, and to Alan Austin’s ‘Crypt of Comics’ in Clapton, so when it came to decision time, I can’t say that I’d chosen to study in London just because of the accessibility of comics, but I admit it was a major factor!

My choice of London paid off. By late 1978 I was studying close to Angel tube station in Islington (not yet the gentrified area it was to become). I was within an easy walk up Islington High Street and Upper Street to Canonbury Lane, where I would spend many a happy hour hanging out in Alan Austin’s Heroes shop after he opened there in June 1979. In those days he still sold mainly comics.

(As an aside: before Alan Austin moved his business to that location, I used to visit his First Floor Offices in Mare Street, Hackney, on the odd Saturday, where I remember buying a pretty ropey (though intact) Fantastic Four #1, and also us both speculating on the future value of the newly published Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man #1. That would place this latter memory in September/October 1976, when I would have been visiting up from Portsmouth. I do recall that the consensus was that this new # 1 Spider-Man issue would never match the highly sought-after comics Amazing Fantasy # 15 and Amazing Spider-Man # 1, and the years have proved us right.)

©Marvel. Spectacular Spider-Man #1

Another regular destination in my student days was Dark They Were & Golden Eyed, by then in St.Anne’s Court, along with the newly opened Forbidden Planet (founded in 1978) in Denmark Street (Paul Hudson’s Comic Showcase in Covent Garden wouldn’t be opening until April 1982). By then, Dark They Were was becoming a shadow of its glory years, suffering under the high shop rent demanded in Soho, and the real excitement was reserved for Forbidden Planet. Not only did Forbidden Planet stock items not seen in Dark They Were, but Forbidden Planet pioneered creator signings that generated big thrills for fans, including a signing that had the fans queuing around the block in June 1979 to meet Neal Adams. 

Other notables that I met at signings were Philip José Farmer in January 1981 and A.E. van Vogt in May 1982. It was also the kind of shop where I recall seeing Stephen King queuing up at the till, and Bob Monkhouse making a noisy visit.

© Unknown. Forbidden Planet, Denmark St , mid-Aug 1980

But the bonus of my new London-based life was the Saturday mart at Westminister’s Methodist Central Hall.

I’ve lost count of the number of comic marts I’ve attended over the years, beginning with the Emsworth comic mart in May 1974 (see SuperStuff73 June 2021: ‘Announcing the publication of Alan Austin’s book…’). I still occasionally make it to the marts held these days at the Royal National Hotel in Bloomsbury, but those Westminster marts in the late 1970s/1980s stick most in my memory.

Located almost opposite Westminster Abbey, and at that time the headquarters of the Methodist Church (who’d raised the money to build it), Westminster Central Hall is a Grade ll listed building built in Edwardian times, at the height of Empire (and it looks it) clad with cream limestone in a baroque style that both reassured and awed in equal measure. The perfect place for a comic mart… comic collecting had finally ‘arrived’!

At the time, I didn’t realise that the Westminster marts were instigated and organised by Nick Landau (Titan Distributers), also one of the names behind Forbidden Planet. Although we can remember attending Westminster Marts as early as February 1975, the marts became a regular event  from November 3rd 1979, with five marts in 1980 and were bimonthly throughout 1981.

Westminster Central Hall is a large venue, but the dealers managed to fill every niche (in both senses of the word!) with over 100 stalls, even up on the stage that looked down upon the palpably enthusiastic crowds. I remember Ken Harman used to have that spot.

(Ken, incidentally, was the dealer with whom I once swapped my Portsmouth-collected run of 1960s and early 1970s Superman titles – Action Comics, Superman, Superboy and some others – for a selection of fine-graded Marvel first appearances, including Fantastic Four, Hulk, Spider-Man, Iron-Man, Thor… all now long sold on…)

SuperStuff stalwarts Ian Baker and Geoff Cousins would sometimes make the trip up from Portsmouth for these events; Ross Carter, Portsmouth’s resident Star Trek specialist, would come up on occasion. We would join the anticipatory queue inside the marble foyer and, when the heavy oak doors opened at noon, unhampered by any entry charge, be part of the rush inside towards the treasures within.

Clutching our wants-lists, it wasn’t long before gaps in our collections were being filled as we did creditable impressions of frantic bees searching out pollen amongst fellow swarms of enthusiastic fans.

Particular comics I bought at the Westminster Marts included an Action Comics #28, with its striking Shuster-like Paul Cassidy cover, and its interior Superman art by one of my favourite early Superman artists, Jack Burnley. I also remember buying a copy of Avengers #3 with its classic battle between the Avengers and the Hulk, with the Sub-Mariner in his first cross-over from the Fantastic Four comic. I can’t remember the prices of these comics, but – and it pains me to admit this in these times, whereby the target to get more students into university has resulted in the costs being borne on students’ shoulders – these comics were well affordable from my student grant…



©DC. Action Comics #28. A Westminster Mart acquisition.

© Marvel. Avengers #3. Another Westminster Mart find.

Apart from Ken Harman, I remember other dealers attending included Paul Hudson (from whom I bought the Action Comics #28), and others I recognised from the earlier marts held at Lyndhurst Hall in Kentish Town and at the Royal Horticultural Society’s Old Hall. I remember chatting with Mike Lake, by then one of the founders of Forbidden Planet, as I used to correspond with him when he dealt with comic imports at Dark They Were &  Golden Eyed in their Berwick Street days, back in the mid-1970s.

By then, Alan Austin had stopped being a big player at the marts – he would just have a few boxes of comics on a friend’s table.

Many regular comic fans and dealers became familiar faces in that time, even if we didn’t know their names, but I recall one particular conversation I had with a non-fan: the Yes musician Steve Howe. Someone mentioned that he was there, and – in those days – I wasn’t yet a curmudgeon so I simply went up to him, introduced myself and we had a nice chat. He was friendly, and explained that he was there as his son was a comic fan. I remember giving him sound financial advice: that comics were a good investment! I have no idea if he took me up on that…

After the mart, I would sometimes return to my digs with my fellow Portmuthians to gloat over our newly acquired comics.

Given where this particular memory sets the scene, I know that this must have been after one of the earlier marts at the Royal Horticultural Society’s Old Hall in late 1978, possibly on November 5th; I have this particularly vivid memory of happily inspecting a copy of Amazing Spider-Man # 18 which I’d purchased at the mart that day, notable in that it completed my set of Spider-Man.

The day sometimes ended with a visit to the West End, to see a film at the superior cinematic facilities at the Empire Leicester Square or at the Dominion in Tottenham Court Road. That additional attraction of life in London is another story, to be told elsewhere. Suffice it to say that when I first saw Star Wars (as it was simply known back then) in its first run in early 1978, I saw it at the former Odeon Festing Road in Southsea with Ross Carter. The Millennium Falcon jumped into hyperspace and, at that exact moment, we were left looking at a blank white screen. The film had broken. Needless to say, when I re-watched Star Wars at the Dominion Tottenham Court Road a few weeks later, it was a less hapless performance!

Nowadays, I’m grateful that the marts at the Royal National Hotel still offer the comic mart experience, and in truth the depth and range of comics on offer means that there are still desirable comics to be had, and even the odd bargain on offer. Perhaps not always for comics these days; I recently picked up a near mint copy of the ‘Magpie ABC of Space’ book by Peter Fairley (1969) for just £5.



All marts have been fun, but looking back, the Westminster Marts were magic.


© Nigel Brown


9 comments:

  1. I'd like to hear more details of Bob Monkhouse's noisy visit if you feel so inclined. It's good to read about these experiences because they're so different from my own. I was the only serious comic buyer/collector among my group of friends and any of them who attended marts with me were uninterested, merely accompanying me for something to do. What's more, I didn't start going to marts until around 1982 because I simply didn't know they existed before then, and I haven't really been to that many since then. Your reminiscences, therefore, give me a glimpse of how my own experiences might've been, had any of my pals been similarly inclined in regard to my own hobby. Great stuff.

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    1. Nigel here. It was a Saturday morning in the Denmark Street Forbidden Planet and as I approached the till at the front, clutching my week's comics, I heard a familiar and friendly sounding voice making loud remarks to the guy on the till. I saw it was Bob Monkhouse, wearing one of those Arthur Daley camel hair coats that were popular in the early 80s. Everyone was smiling as Bob paid for his purchases (I didn't see what he'd bought!) then he swept out of the store.

      Stephen King was the opposite experience. There was a queue of about five behind me that Saturday in Forbidden Planet. I glanced at them as I began to walk out of the shop, then thought I recognised one of the faces in the queue, someone looking a bit uncomfortable at waiting... maybe hoping he wouldn't be spotted? I said to a member of staff as I left: 'Is that Stephen King?' He said 'Yes', then I left. I confess I've never been a big fan of his work, so it was not such a big deal to me as seeing the legendary Bob Monkhouse, but I remember thinking at the time, as I walked up Denmark Street, that it was nice to know that even Stephen King had to queue up like the rest of us!

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    2. Casting my mind back, I remember being quite chuffed back in the early 70s when I discerned that Bob Monkhouse was a comic fan. Do you remember back in the days of Celebrity Squares (UK version of Hollywood Squares) when there was a section when Bob was asked ten questions for charity? One of the questions was "Who created Batman?" ; Bob answered "Most people would say Bob Kane, but actually in my estimation it was Bill Finger." and then detailed his reasons why. All this in a teatime TV show! I felt quite thrilled that a celeb such as Bob was a fellow collector.

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    3. Thanks for the details. I remember seeing a TV show about Bob years ago, filmed at his house, and it had framed comic strip artwork on the walls. He had some collection.

      As for Bill Finger, I think he certainly co-created - or at least developed - Batman before he saw print, but I'd say BM's estimation was overstating the case. If Bob Kane hadn't come up with the basic idea, Finger would have had nothing to work with.

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  2. What a great post Ian, it brought back some memories of my first stay in London in the mid \late 80s. On my first stay ( only for about a year with work) I made my way to Denmark Street to the FP store that I had read so much about only to find it was moving and much of the stock had been boxed ready for the move. I still managed to get some great comics and fanzines though . I had forgotten all about Comic Showcase, that was a great store and if I recall correctly was near a great bar.

    Do you still have your first issue of FF and those early Avengers, Action comics? I never thought to pick up any early Marvels, DCs etc at that time even although I could have afforded some of them ( well those that weren't in great condition) in hindsight a daft decision.

    Nice comments by Nigel on Bob Monkhouse. I never met him ( Bob or Nigel lol) but Mr Monkhouse always seemed a nice man from interviews and from what others said about him . I remember seeing him live in Blackpool, the show was scheduled for 90mins, he went on for over 2 1\2 hours and was really funny ( as it was a late show it was pretty adult but no swearing etc).

    Hope you are feeling better and are allowed back into the family house soon lol - Take care.

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    1. I’m afraid I can’t take any credit for the reminiscences in the post, Paul, other than formatting and loading it to the blog, as it was all Nigel’s experience. I’ll leave it to Nigel to respond on the fate of his various purchases.

      Re Bob Monkhouse - I think I have a VHS video somewhere of one of his adult stand-up shows which was hilarious; he had a prodigious memory and was amazingly sharp on off-the-cuff responses. I first became aware of his comic collecting through an article on comics in an “ahem” men’s mag around 1974; no idea what happened to the article, or who wrote it (may have been Dennis Gifford). I'm sure someone has a copy out there on the interweb.

      Thanks for the COVID good wishes; recovery continues - I'm allowed to roam the halls with a mask - just want to see a negative test soon.

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    2. Now would be the perfect time to watch Bob Hope in The Ghost Breakers, B. It'll scare your Covid away.

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    3. Nigel here, McScotty. The fate of most of my comics?
      'Bricks and mortar'. But no regrets. I had many years of enjoying them, but ultimately I don't have a hoarding personality, so when my interest waned I sold them on.
      I've bought other items since over the years that are 'collectibles' as such. For instance, at a Royal National mart a few years ago I managed to acquire, complete with their posters, 12 issues of Science Fiction Monthly that I was very pleased to get back (especially as my originals had been 'poster sellotaped to death' on my 1970s bedroom walls!).
      I only have about 80 comics these days. Mostly not key issues at all, but ones that have strong personal memories for me, for instance a copy of Superman # 190, the first American comic I read. Most of the others are like that: Superman family 1960s DCs. No Marvels now.

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  3. Hi Nigel, apologies for crediting Ian with your work lol very enjoyable read, as are all posts on here. I still have way too many comics but I am rapidly slimming them down and like you only holding onto those comics with personal memories - for me that's my main \only reason for having them- sadly I have a lot of personal memories!. I have no interest in collecting large numbers of books simply for the sake of it or to have a full set of books I never read or will ever read.

    Ian glad your getting better it took me 6 days to get a negative result when I had COVID in 2021.

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